Free Will and Predestination (zkueker88)
BackCalvinists and Arminians both believe in free will... but in different levels of degrees.
The Bible teaches free will and predestination. How do they both fit without contradicting each other? The answer is actually quite simple:
Free will is the ability to make choices. Our choices are limited by our physical, mental, and spiritual capabilities and God predestines us and knits us together in our mothers' womb.
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RammatRamzi (November 24, 2008 at 8:12 pm)
Venom, like the supposed America preacher turned Muslim cleric, Yusef Estes, seems to be confusing predestination with foreknowledge. I've noticed that if you want to quickly turn the average Calvinist into an Arminian, start talking about eternal punishment. It works on Muslims also. Quranic surahs about Allah willing on or off the right path as Allah pleases, just quickly become ignored and forgotten.
vatbadges (November 20, 2008 at 2:43 pm)
how can he call anything in the bible a nonessential issue... if you believe your free will brought you to salvation..you exalt your self above the word of God and inso participate in idolatry..idolaters will not inherit the kingdom of God.. i think thts a essential issue lol
sumintao (November 19, 2008 at 8:55 am)
Even Peter He addressed as Satan, yet He interceded in Peter's behalf, but for Judas He refused to and call him as given to destruction. Christ is Sovereign in His action and is beyond question, seems the logical explanation is that Judas choice is for apostleship, a friend to Jesus who would betray Him that the Scripture might be fulfilled. But that leaves more questions unanswered. In the end its Jesus words that matters, both to the cursed and the blessed He will have the final say.
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 1:00 pm)
Well said, well said!
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 12:59 pm)
Those He predestined, He called, and those he called He justified. (Rom. 8?)
So no predestination = no justification. If predestination is not to salvation then you are not called nor justified of your sins, and must not only seek God, but make Him declare you righteous, the sacrifice of Christ notwithstanding, because here He says He justifies those He predestines. If you haven't received justification, you are still in your sins - the wrath of God abides on you apart from SOVEREIGN Grace.
So no predestination = no justification. If predestination is not to salvation then you are not called nor justified of your sins, and must not only seek God, but make Him declare you righteous, the sacrifice of Christ notwithstanding, because here He says He justifies those He predestines. If you haven't received justification, you are still in your sins - the wrath of God abides on you apart from SOVEREIGN Grace.
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 12:42 pm)
"... Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth Him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him." -- Then "of truth" God is not looking for those of stature, race, or ethinicity, but those that fear and work righteousness! But wait - "There is no fear of God before their eyes" "There is none who is righteous, no, not one". Rather than fear coming through wisdom, wisdom comes through fear:"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge"
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm)
We ought not to be debating the power of the atonement, but its application. It is applied only to those who believe. And as you yourself say, "unbelievers are going to hell because they chose to remain enemies of God and stay in their sin." Unbelievers will always choose such. They are not willing to believe. Satan keeps his goods in peace...unless the Strong Man comes and steals them. So what are we but unbelievers held in unbelief apart from the Grace of the Spirit upon whom He chooses.
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 12:30 pm)
Yes, I agree that unbelievers have faith - in a lie. Have you ever tried taking a lie away from one who has believed it? This is no good hope, that men possess faith, but a further obstacle. Not only are men faithless concerning God, but denying His knowledge they are turned aside onto lies, by which they resist the truth. Not only must they be convinced to believe, but also made to disbelieve the lie. Saying men are dead is saying they are seperate from God and will to resist God with a fury.
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 12:25 pm)
So God forseeing faith in a man is like me forseeing a glass on the table coming towards me. Better yet, a glass that someone has knocked of the table. Even more so, one who he does not allow to rise back up and move forward (if it even could) and who blocks my efforts to grab the glass. Why, even the glass is willing to precede on the path of falling and despises me anyway. What must I do? Punch away the one guarding it and catch the glass onto myself and rinse it pure. So is man's freewill.
Studier101 (November 18, 2008 at 12:20 pm)
And since the Scriptures are clear on this, it is not a "non-essential" (though I understand your usage of the term) but is straightforward, positive teaching of the Scripture, so that the resistance to and mitigating of it can only be called the refusal to believe a cardinal doctrine of the faith. For what can be more cardinal to Christianity than to believe that men are lost, and undone, and in need of a Saviour; and that they need the Spirit to even receive the Saviour?