The Psychology of Green: The Death Cult of Zero Worship (Part 1)
BackPart 1 of 2 parts. On July 9, 2008, Paul McKeever was the guest of "Just Right" with Robert Metz on radio CHRW (94.9 FM - London, Ontario). The subject was the psychology and philosophy of the environmental ("green") movement.
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Uploaded: July 15, 2008 at 12:53 am
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Video Comments:
tacticalbarrage (October 7, 2008 at 4:29 pm)
Tell you what for every tree you hug I will cut down ten. Why because green is b.s....
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:14 pm)
Frankly I've listened to about five minutes of this video so far and it's just a load of tripe. First of all, the use of the phrase "Spiritual happiness" and "Spiritual achievement" I find very distasteful, being an atheist, though I understand it's probably used in a different context.
Second, these two seem to completely mis-characterize the core theme of being green. Really green, not some tree hugging hippy who resents his parents kicking him out of the basement.
Second, these two seem to completely mis-characterize the core theme of being green. Really green, not some tree hugging hippy who resents his parents kicking him out of the basement.
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:16 pm)
Thinking in terms of GREEN is not about punishing producers, but being aware of the limitations of our methods and the resources available to us. Our fishing industry, for example, is in dire need of reform, because we have exhausted surface supplies in many parts of the ocean and have resorted to Bottom Trawling, which is an extremely damaging method which devastates underwater ecosystems and destroys thousands of years worth of coral growth, leaving nothing but barren undersea desert.
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:18 pm)
Their exploration into the different personality types and happiness in general is idiotically simplistic, and trying to falsely equate the obviously negative Type B personality with being 'green', which is entirely unrelated, is simply a shallow attempt to demonize a philosophy by trying to sound smarter than those they disagree with, without actually addressing the real issues. Basically, they set up a very transparent straw man and call it green, even though it has nothing to do with it.
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:22 pm)
The volume of the Earth is estimated at 260,000,000,000 cubic miles.
Its surface area is estimated at 196,935,000 sq miles.
Thus, we know that the dimensions of the earth are indeed limited, and that a limited number of organisms and resources can fit in that space.
Through environmental study we can determine the replenishment rate of these resources, and establish whether our refinement methods constitute renewable or non-renewable. Non renewable resources will eventually expire.
Its surface area is estimated at 196,935,000 sq miles.
Thus, we know that the dimensions of the earth are indeed limited, and that a limited number of organisms and resources can fit in that space.
Through environmental study we can determine the replenishment rate of these resources, and establish whether our refinement methods constitute renewable or non-renewable. Non renewable resources will eventually expire.
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:25 pm)
Thus, the root of being 'Green' as they call it is the desire to move as many resources as possible into the "Renewable" category. All resources on earth are effectively renewable, since earth is an enclosed system which does not lose resources (except radiation), but our usage and refinement methods create patterns which are non-renewable.
Sticking with the fishing example, fishing can be modernized into a form of agriculture, making it renewable, as currently it is more like strip mining.
Sticking with the fishing example, fishing can be modernized into a form of agriculture, making it renewable, as currently it is more like strip mining.
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:28 pm)
As for the fallacious argument that green people fit into the Type 2 category who resent success and wish for fulfilling undeserved happiness, this doesnt even enter the equation.
Such people do in fact exist, but they have nothing to do with being 'green'.
If green is a psychological state, it is one of awareness of the limitations of an enclosed resource system under the strain of a constantly growing and over consuming human population, and the desire to prevent the hardship of 'wanting'.
Such people do in fact exist, but they have nothing to do with being 'green'.
If green is a psychological state, it is one of awareness of the limitations of an enclosed resource system under the strain of a constantly growing and over consuming human population, and the desire to prevent the hardship of 'wanting'.
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:31 pm)
Given our current technological level of achievement, we can become self sustaining and achieve a state of virtually infinite renewability with the resources at hand, if we maximize the efficiency of our consumption, curtail waste, and curb destructive non-renewable refining and harvesting methods, like bottom trawling and clear cutting. Clear cutting is now largely undesirable on land for exactly the reason that the forest cannot recover effectively from it.
This is green, not punishing people
This is green, not punishing people
Etimos (October 4, 2008 at 4:12 pm)
So dodos are theoretically unlimited, yes? Oh wait, there arent any anymore.
Resources always have a limit, except in certain video games. Say you have a continent, north america for example, with one billion trees. An astronomical number, and you'd think you could never cut them all down, surely with the average lifespan of a tree they'd grow back too fast. But if you cut them down too quickly or in too large a number, you would run out eventually.
Resources always have a limit, except in certain video games. Say you have a continent, north america for example, with one billion trees. An astronomical number, and you'd think you could never cut them all down, surely with the average lifespan of a tree they'd grow back too fast. But if you cut them down too quickly or in too large a number, you would run out eventually.
Nadow (October 9, 2008 at 7:11 pm)
You havent understand it. Or are we using exclusively wood for living today? New resources have been and will be discovered. And if dont, you have the whole Universe to exploit, virtually unlimited. For that reason its just a technological issue. And if some resource are being consumed too fast (i.e oil) dont worry, the market will rise up the prices and the consumption will slow down as you can see right now happening with oil.