"A is A"
BackI actually think that both sides of this debate make some good points at various points, although I ultimately side with the realist (despite the virtual uselessness of statements such as "A is A" and "Reality is real"). Make up your own mind.
Channel: People & Blogs
Uploaded: September 1, 2008 at 10:19 am
Author: brainpolice2
Length: 00:03:43
Rating: 4.42
Views: 847
Tags: Realism Anti-realism Language Semantics Circular Reasoning Self-referential Statements Performative Contradictions
Video Comments:
BrianTheMusicMan (November 22, 2008 at 11:32 pm)
This is a great practice in Socratic dialectic - awesome job.
TransfiguredNight (September 22, 2008 at 1:34 am)
The reason Objectivists don't understand this video is the same reason you don't see any Objectivists who have made it through formal logic classes, or practice hard science, or submit papers to peer-reviewed journals, or have constructive debates in graduate studies--or even make it to graduate studies--or basically do anything that might involve exposing their Infallible Version of Reality to anything resembling the real world of human knowledge and intellectual life.
SuperFinGuy (September 22, 2008 at 5:47 am)
TransfiguredNight, your comment is self evidently wrong lol
jparagons (September 22, 2008 at 6:42 pm)
For what it's worth, I (an Objectivist) made it through formal logic classes, and did quite well for that matter.
leorana2 (September 21, 2008 at 11:27 pm)
You're missing the point. "A is A" is not meant to define A or give us raw data of A's charecaristics. What that sentence comes to point out is that things have an identity. Maybe we have the tools / knowledge / understanding to figure out more about A at present, maybe we don't. But A has an identity, and more specifically an objective identity.
brainpolice2 (September 21, 2008 at 11:37 pm)
I'm not making an argument, the video is a representation of an argument between two people. So I don't see how I can be missing any point. Apparently the nature of the video went over your head.
brainpolice2 (September 21, 2008 at 11:18 pm)
This video didn't take a position, it's a mock debate between two positions, so I'm not sure why you're argueing against me. I haven't told you my position.
SuperFinGuy (September 21, 2008 at 11:49 pm)
I'm not necessarily arguing against you, just saying that your real voice could've done much better if you pointed out a few more simple things.
KafkaCrow (September 21, 2008 at 12:44 pm)
The squeaky voice is a KANTIAN!!!11
KafkaCrow (September 21, 2008 at 12:43 pm)
This is good stuff. Ayn Rand sucked the most at epistemology. I mean the rest of her stuff sucks, but this really, really sucks.